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John W. Verity
John W. Verity
3/27/2012 11:40:18 PM
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Re: Re: Are You Ready for P2P Storage in the Cloud?
@Taimoor, I think youre right. A comany that knows how to do it can operate masses of hard disks and controllers up in the cloud at a cost-per-GB that most people would have trouble matching, even they used the cheapest available disk drives.

I suppose we ought to also consider P2P processing, too. Spare computer cycles here and there could be harvested. The limitation may be getting data to these disprate processing nodes. My son's game machine, from Sony, can participate in a scientific processing job that tried to model how proteins fold. The thng is, it eats up a great deal of electricity, especially if thousands of machines are involved. And it's users who pay for this, not the companies that eventually benefit from the processing those users are paying for. 

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Taimoor Zubar
Taimoor Zubar
3/18/2012 2:02:29 PM
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Re: Re: Are You Ready for P2P Storage in the Cloud?
@John: Even I don't see a lot of economic advantages from P2P storage. With storage costs falling so drastically, I don't see how cloud storage within a professional data center will cost a lot more than this model.

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Taimoor Zubar
Taimoor Zubar
3/18/2012 12:46:26 PM
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Security concerns
Despite the encryption and security measures in place, I would not be too comfortable having my data stored in someone else's computer in some other part of the world. Call it paranoia but that's how most companies will react to it. And you never know when it becomes possible to find ways of decrypting the files. The P2P model may be very effective for sharing things which can be public, but I don't think it's of much use to be used in cloud storage.

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Peter K. Ghavami
Peter K. Ghavami
3/16/2012 7:00:12 PM
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Re: Are You Ready for P2P Storage in the Cloud?
It was referesing to read your blog on P2P.  There is definitely going to be more P2P architectures. So I agree that we need to wrap our heads around this model.  I predict that we will all have our personal clouds in a few months.  Creating a common P2P standard for clouds to share information will be an interesting standard which hopefully will be developed by pioneers in cloud computing sooner rather than later.  The issue to me is how my application will communicate to your application through intercloud P2P communication.  I'll definitely watch this spot as exciting technologies are going to emerge.

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philtheswguy
philtheswguy
3/15/2012 8:25:17 PM
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Re: P2P storage
That CleverSafe is a great idea. It reminds me of when Napster went live years ago. I can see it turning out to be a really popular thing... even powering some cool crowdsourced applications.

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SethGB
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3/14/2012 3:28:04 PM
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Re: Re: Are You Ready for P2P Storage in the Cloud?
@ John, yes this seems to be an advantage for an individual or business that has very little space to give but much more to store, needs it encrypted and doesn't want or can't to pay for it. If one company had tons of storage, lending out one laptop for storage in return may not be that big of a deal.  The only thing I can imagine is a start-up with no financial cash reserves or someone with a massive music/movie collection. 

In all fairness, if everyone contributed to it the storage part may not be a factor, but what if a piece of valuable information is parced on someone's computer and then it breaks or gets replaced.  Eventually every thing needs to be replaced, so even if it is redundant, do they have a process to make sure your data doesn't wind up in a scrap pile? 

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John W. Verity
John W. Verity
3/14/2012 1:12:55 PM
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Re: Are You Ready for P2P Storage in the Cloud?
I'm still not clear on what the economic advantages would be, given that for not so much money I can rent capacity in the cloud that is professionally managed. 

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Michael Joseph
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3/14/2012 8:00:59 AM
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Re: Are You Ready for P2P Storage in the Cloud?
Some good comments here about this development. One thing I note is the concern about shared storage impacting system performance. The configuration allows for throttling upload and download and constraining it to non-used hours, ie my config is set to when I am not using the PC, mostly after midnight. Likewise think of all those unused hours on the server farm when access has no overall business impact.

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SaneIT
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3/14/2012 7:48:36 AM
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Re: Are You Ready for P2P Storage in the Cloud?
For backup storage I can see the uses and understand the benefits this sounds similar to the way virtual SANs function if you think of the portable data centers as big disks.  Maybe one day when we all have super fast connections to the could at all times this could move past the backup storage phase but for now I think it's uses are pretty limited.

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Henrisha
Henrisha
3/14/2012 4:44:14 AM
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Re: P2P storage
This sounds interesting, but I'd have to agree with Seth. 300GB isn't exactly peanuts, so I'm pretty sure it's going to affect my system's performance and health in the long term. Neat concept, but not for me.

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