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Public or Private? How to Pick Your First Compute Cloud

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4/30/2012 1:29:11 AM
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Re: Tricky calculation
By the way, we had a good chat about this topic and the transcript of that session is archived online for anyone interested in reading it. It's right here.

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John W. Verity
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4/29/2012 5:26:57 PM
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Re: Tricky calculation
Yes, that seems like the key item, a business plan that takes into consideration all factors and costs and benefits. Moving to the cloud is a big decision. 

I suppose, though, there is a question here which we've not necessarily touched on: Is it always that case one or the other, public or private cloud, will be obviously better than the other? Is it inevitable that one will clearly win out over the other? If not, what should one do, how does one choose? What would be the threshold? 

Just a thought.

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Matthew Matkin
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4/26/2012 5:57:31 AM
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Re: Tricky calculation
I believe that the implications are different, but they will both create a change and have some impact. Some services will transition easier than others, which is why it is important in any case to write a business case and project plan.

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John W. Verity
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4/25/2012 10:57:05 PM
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Re: Tricky calculation
My guess is that choosing between a private and public infrastructure cloud is a different proposition than choosing, say, platform-as-a-service. The former is a low-level entity while the latter has major implications for developing and deploying apps. 

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John W. Verity
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4/25/2012 12:14:02 PM
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Re: Tricky calculation
It sounds like good advice, to try out the cloud with a well-chosen trial app or two. That way, you can better understand the economics and workings of the cloud services and not take the supplier's word for it. 

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John W. Verity
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4/24/2012 5:03:08 PM
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Re: Tricky calculation
From all I can tell, I think we will be seeing more storage, especially the longer-term variety, move to the cloud. 

Of course, that doesn't solve the problem of where to run apps, where to keep servers, etc. 

I certainly don't envy today's IT manager, with such momentous decisions to make. On ther other hand, there's a good deal of money to be saved for many companies. Look at Netflix, for instance, which is primarily in the cloud. I guess you could think of that firm as dependent on logistics, but it actually rents the trucks and warehouses (up in the cloud, at Amazon and some content delivery nets) and manages them itself, vs. outsourcing the whole thing. 

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Matthew Matkin
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4/24/2012 11:03:32 AM
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Re: Tricky calculation
I agree that it may not be completely black and white. There are a lot of moving parts to the equation that can be difficult to lockdown, but with some effort, a team can make the appropriate decision for their company. The key is to eliminate "excuses" why one is better than the other, and look at the real factors after performing some upfront research.

Putting a single service in the public cloud to better understand how things work and to gain experience is a good idea. However, the team must put their full effort into the project, and they should use an externally-facing service that is well suited for this environment. This type of strategy will help to maximize their success, and also provide for a strong learning environment.

Once the team moves through this process, they may be surprised what they find. At one company with a strong IT team, they found that it was more efficient for them to throw their archival storage into the cloud. They were required by government regulations to maintain certain data for up to 30 years, and they found that they were expending too much time dealing with backups, mirrors, and maintenance of this environment. While this is not a service typically thought of as being suited for the cloud, they found that moving it allowed them to focus on more critical items for the company.

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John W. Verity
John W. Verity
4/23/2012 8:11:38 PM
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Tricky calculation
INteresting article, Matthew. I wonder if you have any thoughts on how users should think about one kind of cloud being an on-ramp for the other. It seems to me that a company might try out cloud computing at, say, Amazon and once it had determined that this had some merit, it might want to bring some of that capability in house. Or vice-versa. In other words, perhaps the decision is not black and white, one or the other but instead, a mix.

Also, I gather that up to a certain level of capacity, renting in the public cloud is a good choice, but then it becomes less expensive to run one's own cloud. But then again, Netflix is pretty much all in the cloud, and it runs a big set of infrastructure, while Facebook is not. Who knows?

Making the calculation even more complicated is the fact that cloud computing is fairly new, and expertise with it is scarce, and the technologies involved are all evolving failry quickly. It's moving target.

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