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APM in the Cloud: a Work in Progress

John W. Verity
John W. Verity
John W. Verity
5/30/2012 10:50:24 PM
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APM is a must
There must be a way -- many ways, actually -- to manage applications in the cloud, else companies like Netflix and Facebook and Amazon wouldn't be able to do what they do, especially at such large scale. I wonder if the cloud services provides, including Amazon and Rackspace and HP and IBM and Microsoft, will provide some kind of management tools. That would make sense, for sure. Also, I think the PaaS providers, like Heroku and AppFog, must do something like this to help their customers keep apps performing up to snuff.

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tekgirl
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5/22/2012 9:40:28 AM
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Re: APM in the Cloud: a Work in Progress
@John- Yes, I agree we need a tool to manage these individual tools. I am not aware of one existing but it may be possible to instrument one, only if all tools are ready to talk the same language.

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John W. Verity
John W. Verity
5/20/2012 7:04:35 PM
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Re: APM in the Cloud: a Work in Progress
Thanks, @tekgirl, for that elaboration. It does sound like there's a wealth of options and possibilities. IT may be the most complex machine ever built, so it makes sense that there are so many tools available to keep it running smoothly and without a hitch. I suppose what's needed next is a tool to manage the tools. Oh, there is one? I should have known!

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tekgirl
tekgirl
5/18/2012 12:34:06 PM
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Re: APM in the Cloud: a Work in Progress
@John - IMO one product may not satisfy all the requirements. I would have one tool to get my infrastructure/server/web metrics, one for the backend database and one light weight tool on the end user box to  actually measure in real tme how long do each transaction take after the user hits the enter key on his pc. Of course one needs to consider what other activities are also going on in the user pc that could hurt his performance. Overall if I am able to capture average transaction times from the user community I would have a better idea on how my set up as a whole is performing. Also I can identify if an entire geographical regon has a bottleneck or sometimes the internet service providers the end user uses etc. Yes, I would prefer to use the best of the breed in each case.

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John W. Verity
John W. Verity
5/17/2012 6:09:50 PM
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Re: APM in the Cloud: a Work in Progress
End-to-end is the name of the game. I wonder, @tekgirl, if you've been looking at products that try to both, or are you trying knit together disparate tools, each best of breed? 

 

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tekgirl
tekgirl
5/17/2012 12:29:31 PM
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APM in the Cloud: a Work in Progress
Yes, it is definitely challenging to monitor performance on a cloud. Having said that, some of the performance challenges are similar to what we face within our organization. To get an end to end view one needs have monitoringe of the server,infrastructure and the software done on the side of the cloud provider as well as have some monitoring at the end user levels as well. That way, one can get a detailed metrics on what the end user actually sees and how that correlates to what is happening on the cloud. 

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